Here is the good things: Shoots and works great; Has a good bore; Apparenty was made in WWII because the barel has Nazi proof marks. One is a Browning 9mm Hi Power with Nazi markings and an artillary sight, probably made in the late 1930s. High Power or Hi-Power: If the gun is marked “Fabrique Nationale,” it is a High Power. The acceptance stamps and proof marks appear somewhat crude and without the definition seen on other Browning High Power, Luger and P38 pistols used during the war. For a while, Canada used decals to mark property. It should have some Belgian proof marks. Description: I have a 1938-39 Hi Power, Pre-War, Serial Number: 25008, in 90%+ condition, for sale. Forums > Handguns > Browning Hi Power Handgun > Found a Hi Power with shoulder stock and holster- 4-digit SN Discussion in ' Browning Hi Power Handgun ' started by R.G. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 38266a. At least some of the German ones do. Asking $2900 obo My Grandfather was a war time journalist for "The Yank" during WWII. So a lot depends on size, etc. The serial number found on your gun has the answer. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 7 of 7 Posts. Before there was a Sig P226 or a Beretta M92 there was a the Browning High Power. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. JavaScript is disabled. C=Hi Power This was then followed by the serial number beginning with 1000. Example: 69C1000 = A 1969 Hi Power pistol with a serial number of 1000. It was then picked up by the FN Factory in Belgium and they completed the design in the late 1920s and went into production. I have a third that only has the Waffen mark. Additional Browning photos can be seen here Browning Hi-Power pistols were used during World War II by both Allied and Axis forces. T258001-261000 C=Hi Power: 1976-1997: In 1975 Browning standardized its serial number identification which it followed until 1998. Jim Great deals on Gun Parts Browning Hi Power. Even post-war? How were Canadian magazines marked? Example: 69C1000 = A 1969 Hi Power pistol with a serial number of 1000. HI, John. Maybe I was just looking in the wrong places? The Hi Power name didn’t refer to the cartridge, but to its 13 round magazine, holding five more than the Luger and six more than the Colt 1911. Has three extra 13 round magazines that come with it. Proof Marks, Arsenal & Inspector Marks In addition to arsenal marks, you will find other marks or stampings. Late German maybe? http://www.gunnyboy.com/post_list.php?uid=2953&post=e2f9247929b404b2fe98ba6f32301e3b Video of shooting the old WWII Nazi proofed Hi Power. There's no indication of gauge. So the Browning Hi-Power, actually John Browning first made the design for the Browning Hi-Power and he died before he completed it. -The Controller of Proof Mark (*O) was used by Watrin Charles from 1928-1965-My 1950 pistol has serial number 28,*** but serial numbers are not conclusive. cpw, where did you get you information on the pre war markings (magazines)on Belgium H.P.? It is in very good condition with 85% original finish. The problem is this mark was used from 1818 (muzzle loading period) until 1893, so that hardly narrows down the time frame. http://www.patreon.com/ForgottenWeaponsCool Forgotten Weapons merch! Are these HP markings pre-war or post-war? It is mint and would make a … Pistols and Holsters. "LONG LIVE THE FN-BROWNING-SAIVE HIGH POWER" John Browning & Dieudonne Saive's Designs Will Always be Light Years Ahead of All the Others. Fighting Tyrants & Traitors is a 24/7 Job that Must be Done! 1*” and “BROWNING-F.N. Sweeney Discovers the Browning Hi Power. I wrote an article for the NAPCA magazine a few years ago, which pertained to the marked Hi-Powers. (frame, slide, and barrel), and no import marks. The gun is manufactured by FN Belgium and is serial No. There are also Hi-Powers marked "AKAH" and "GECO". ... it does say browning patent depose on the side . German: German Mfg. I'd rather beat a bad guy to death with my Browning High Power, than shoot him dead with a "plastic pistol". Second Media Corp., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The heir wants to sell it. 1. Fast & Free shipping on many items! But unlike the 1911, the High Power has always stayed under the Browning name and it is still manufactured today by Miroku in Japan. Other marklings may or may not be present. According to the gentleman, it's all original, matching numbers, and stamped with the eagles. After occupying Belgium in 1940, German forces took over the FN plant. The roll mark on the slide is the only marking on the pistol other than the serial number and proof marks. … These are even less common. It follows (I am not sure if the Tables will com over properly) West German Commercially Marked Browning High-Powers Shaw , … No other markings anywhere on the magazine other than the circle c. Doesn't appear to be as high quality as I'd expect from pre-war stuff, but I know little about these. I'd rather beat a bad guy to death with my Browning High Power, than shoot him dead with a "plastic pistol". 4/5 Bore. It was also later licensed to Inglis in Canada. This is a beautiful factory new P-35. German troops subsequently used the Hi-Power, having assigned it the designation Pistole 640(b) ("b" for belgisch, "Belgian"). I have two. Proof Marks, Arsenal & Inspector Marks In addition to arsenal marks, you will find other marks or stampings. The 1911 is Browning’s classic pistol on which numerous other handguns have been born. Duke plinks steel with an Inglis Hi-Power. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! You would have to l ook for Nazi Waffenamt marks. The one in my collection has British proof marks. But this one is a particularly good one. (non-P08) Pistols & Holsters. Only one "NORIS" Hi-Power is known. Production continued until the end of the war. The Hi-Power is one of the most widely used military pistols of all time, having been … FWIW, my A marked mag and C marked mag also appear to be WaA140 marked. Were there just be a WaA or were other markings used too? Browning died in 1926, several years before the design was finalized. There are 4 variations of markings (or lack of markings) on WWII German Hi-Power magazines. Fighting Tyrants & Traitors is a 24/7 Job that Must be Done! It was made by Fabrique Nationale in Belgium, and was designed by John Moses Browning like like the Colt 1911. A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. If the gun is marked “Browning Arms Company,” than it is a Hi-Power. As for proof marks, the oval with E/LG/* inside makes it indeed Belgian. FN Browning Hi-Power (made some time between 1934 and 1938) Photos of a late 1930's Lithuanian Browning appear below. The subject gun is a fixed sight version with original finish, all matching serial nos. fn high power ,fabrique nationale wwii german military proofed description: fn high power wwii period under german management with nazi military proof marks eagle 140, in all the right places ,this is the 2 nd variation which has the tangent sights to 500 meters ( good luck ) , there were 3 variation for this model , cal 9mm, all ser. WaA613 WaA103 WaA140 No WaA markings in the foregoing order. The major departure from the 1911 on the High Power is the … FN Browning Hi Power - Lithuanian Contract - sn 3xxx. Save Share. These include the date, serial number and property marks as well as various acceptance and proof marks. I'm not at all in the know on the Hi-Power line, except to know that a lot of people like them A LOT. To find your serial number, you will need to refer to your owner's manual. He was not provided a weapon by the army so a friend gave him the pistol after taking it … Moving to the left side of the receiver, we can see that the pistol is marked “Mk. Examples produced by FN in Belgium under German occupation bear German inspection and acceptance marks, or Waffenamts, such as WaA613. I can't speak for the German HPs, but the WWII Canadian made Inglis magazines are marked with a small "JI". German: Foreign Mfg. There should be some date code markings on different parts, indicating the year and quarter each part was made/inspected. This is a rare Lithuanian military contract Browning Hi Power, manufactured by Fabrique Nationale. The changeover from WaA613 to WaA103 occurred at SN 65285, only 35 numbers away from that of this pistol, and it may be that new stamps of the correct style were not available at the time of the changeover. Army, Navy, Police, Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. It is much appreciated! The condition is poor so I would value the gun at no more then 300 to 350. Here's a picture...thanks for the help. However, with a pistol that age, you never know what could be going on. https://gerardcox.blogspot.com/2014/06/deciphering-belgian-proof-marks.html Now this is a great example of the information available at this forum!!! It is indeed a proof mark from the factory, although a great many Kareens don't have the proof. The John Inglis Company of Canada acquired six FN Hi-Powers from China and reverse engineered Nothing got to the 1″ mark, but multiple brands hit the 1 1/2″ to 2″ mark. 1966 Browning Hi-Power Made in Belgium New Condition in correct Browning Pouch with Manuel. In German service, it was used mainly by W… These include the date, serial number and property marks as well as various acceptance and proof marks. A family member recntly passed away and has several old guns. Charlie, thanks for sharing your years of research with us. T258001-261000 C=Hi Power: 1976-1997: In 1975 Browning standardized its serial number identification which it followed until 1998. In addition to the Waffen marks, one is marked with an A in a circle, and the other with what looks like a C in a circle. A forum community dedicated to handgun owners and enthusiasts. Markings: The left side of the slide is marked “FABRIQUE NATIONALE D’ARMES DE GUERRE / HERSTAL BELGIQUE”, “BROWNING’S PATENT DEPOSE”, with an Eagle holding a globe with swastika and a “E / WaA140” Waffenamt. Now you can date your Browning firearm. C=Hi Power This was then followed by the serial number beginning with 1000. FN/Browning Hi Power 9mm. All of the guns mentioned in this section will have full-blown FÉG Company markings and proof marks, and are not in any way fake FN/Brownings. Since the U.S. has no proofing houses (as in England, France, Germany and ... 1868-1925 London definitive special super power proof for parabellum pistols 1868-1925 Birmingham voluntary special black powder proof The major departure from the 1911 on the High Power … I don't think some were marked at all? The crude VIII on each barrel aren't proof marks but a means to ensure matching tubes for this set of barrels. I just purchased a WWII Hi Power and am in the first of a 3-day inspection period and am concerned about the markings, or lack thereof. Dating a FN Browning Hi Power with multiple markings. The Browning Hi-Power is a single-action, 9 mm semi-automatic handgun.It is based on a design by American firearms inventor John Browning, and completed by Dieudonné Saive at Fabrique Nationale (FN) of Herstal, Belgium.Browning died in 1926, several years before the design was finalized. The acceptance stamps and proof marks appear somewhat crude and without the definition seen on other Browning High Power, Luger and P38 pistols used during the war. 9mm HP INGLIS CANADA,” as shown above. Reply. I would judge gun about 90%. A small “C-Broad Arrow” acceptance mark is found on the left side of the trigger guard, also shown in the photo above. Collectors get excited over things like this. The gun is manufactured by FN Belgium and is serial No. This area will help you read that serial number. FN Browning Pistols, Side-Arms that Shaped World History is the quintessential reference book on FN Browning pistols and reflects the continued work of Anthony Vanderlinden on the topic. If you accept what the gun was designed for, a double stack military sidearm shooting 115gr ball rounds, the Hi-Power … Like the the original models, these are marked with the Pillars of Gediminas . "LONG LIVE THE FN-BROWNING-SAIVE HIGH POWER". But unlike the 1911, the High Power has always stayed under the Browning name and it is still manufactured today by Miroku in Japan. Many thousands of FN Hi-Powers were made in Belgium when occupied by the German Army and all were taken. The Hi-Power is one of the most widely used military pistols in history, having been used by the armed forces of over 50 countries. "LONG LIVE THE FN-BROWNING-SAIVE HIGH POWER" John Browning & Dieudonne Saive's Designs Will Always be Light Years Ahead of All the Others. The left side of the frame is also marked with an Eagle holding a globe with swastika and “E / WaA140”. The third mag is only WaA103 marked. I was always intrigued by this handgun, I think mainly because so few pistols have been used by so many different countries for a military sidearm. Interestingly enough, most people do not know that the Israeli Kareen was designed to fire the 158gr FMJ submachine gun round fired from Uzi's, thus, it was actually designed to be stronger than the Browning HP. There is only 1 pistol, and it is a 1936 browning hi-power. Before there was a Sig P226 or a Beretta M92 there was a the Browning High Power. PROOF MARKS 2403 The proof marks shown below will assist in determining nationality of manufacturers when no other markings are evident. There are 4 variations of markings (or lack of markings) on WWII German Hi-Power magazines. Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. Note also that the Lithuanian army has employed the Browning Hi-Power in more recent times. There were no other WaA marks that I could find though. I just purchased a WWII Hi Power and am in the first of a 3-day inspection period and am concerned about the markings, or lack thereof. The subject gun is a fixed sight version with original finish, all matching serial nos. But as I mentioned, the markings you mentioned were also used before the Germans came. The guns I'm referring to here are clearly marked FÉG's. An average group from Duke’s FN Hi-Power (above) using 115-grain FMJ factory ammunition is an acceptable 2-3/4 inches at 25 yards. (John Inglis). Any ideas of a fair price? 38266a. It has no collector value. New to Browning Hi Powers, so please be gentle. JavaScript is disabled. It was made by Fabrique Nationale in Belgium, and was designed by John Moses Browning like like the Colt 1911. Belgium HP 9mm. FN Hi-Power front sights were staked to the slide. So, is it possible that a 140 waffenamt mark tangent hi power could have a mag without any markings? All will be found on the spine of the mag. Other Browning favorites are the Buck Mark and Hi Power. Between 5,000 to 7,000 pieces were made and delivered to Lithuania in the late 1930s, prior to World War II. I have always wanted a "Browning Hi Power" since I was a teenager. Some pre war mag parts were used by the Germans. Classic Gun Review: Belgian Browning Hi-Power Mk I. If present, the meaning is unknown and are likely assembly or control marks. FN Hi Power. (frame, slide, and barrel), and no import marks. My first introduction to the Hi Power came when I was working at The Gun Room, a gun store I called employer from 1978 to 1982 or so. The Browning Hi-Power. FWIW This Pre war mag came with my early Nazi tangent HP. What markings would be on an original German WWII High Power magaine? Adaptability of Browning Parts. 1933-1945: Mauser Lugers. 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